FlashForward Boss Reveals Season 2 Talks Have Taken Place

by Flash Forward on January 10, 2010 · 364 comments

FlashForward Season 2?

FlashForward co-creator David Goyer recently revealed to SciFi Wire that he has held talks with ABC about the possibility of a second season for the show. Goyer confirms that the producers have a plan for in place for season 2 and that they’re waiting for the network to make a decision over whether or not to renew.

Head past the jump for full details.

Goyer also revealed that he has already discussed a second season with the network.

“We just pitched season two to the network right before this,” Goyer said. “[It went] well. We’re excited about season two. I will say there’s no way we could do season two without having set up season one, but season two is pretty cool. I hope we get to do it.”

There may be a ratings number that the second half of the season would have to hit in order for ABC to renew it, but the network has not given the show any specifics. “I don’t know what that number is,” Goyer said. “They haven’t told us, because the other factors are the DVR numbers, and we are also doing incredibly well overseas. I mean, incredibly well, like smashing records overseas. So it’s a complicated formula. It’s not anymore just ‘Well, how many millions of viewers are tuning in at the moment it’s there?'”


FLASHFORWARD LOVER<3 June 9, 2011 at 7:42 pm


Buttercup5881 June 13, 2011 at 2:17 am

ABC is so stupid for getting rid of flash forward it is the BEST show EVER every show has people that don't like it, but as you can see from here there are millions of people who want this show to come back. If ABC is reading this you HAVE to bring flash forward back if you don't want to lose thousands of viewers. You can't just leave a show like that it's not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CrazyEyes June 13, 2011 at 7:16 pm

Just finished enjoying Flashfoward on netflix. Another vote to hoping there is a season 2

Sandi June 14, 2011 at 1:14 am

I couldn't believe it when I read that there was no season 2…. This show kept me on the each of my seat and I almost watched the whole thing in one sitting. I just couldn't stop and I was so happy not to have to wait for one week to see the next episode…
So you can't do this to us and not give us season 2 !!!!!

maxivoje June 14, 2011 at 10:27 am

really do not understand why you do if you were filming the first season will not be another season. it's like to run the race at 100 meters and then stop halfway and say I finished the race. you have to admit that it is very stupid.

Rebecca Ajm June 14, 2011 at 10:33 am

Bring it back! Don't let reality TV take over. It was a well constructed show that made me excited, intrigued and wanting more. I need to know what happens next!

Prettybp25 June 23, 2011 at 2:26 pm

I am so upset that there isn't a season 2 I love this show it's one of a kind. Someone really needs to pick this show back up i don't care who just do it. I so love this cast.

James9stokes June 25, 2011 at 5:57 pm

i hope u get to do the second season of flash forward. we over in England loved every moment of it i would be glued to our tv's for every episode for sure, i loved season 1 that much i got the dvd when it came out and relive it all the time

A Castillo June 30, 2011 at 1:11 am

It was an amazing show and it does not make any sense not to make season 2. My family never watches tv during programing hours. Our schedules will never allow it but nontheless we loved the show.

Cherrycty June 30, 2011 at 7:59 pm

WTF?? why no season two?  It was an AMAZING season. I watched it on NetFlix and just finished the 22 episodes last night. I went to bed early everynight just so I could catch a couple episodes each night. I'm totally hooked and a bit PO'd to find there is no season two. I was so looking forward to this.  What's the matter with you people at abc? The people obviously want it… give it to us!

Tayyab kamal July 1, 2011 at 6:53 pm

how many of you believe that technology used in flash forward can be invented and we will be able to see our future?

Flash_forwards_no1 July 8, 2011 at 8:34 am

if they can't carry on the show then could'nt they at least release a book and if the book sells a lot then the bring out season 2 that way you can get a proper record of people who like the show because people couldn't read a book online. Just an idea?

Bodenhamert July 23, 2011 at 12:33 am

I would support season 2. Please bring it back.

babak July 25, 2011 at 9:31 am

this show is awesome and have a lot of fans in other country like Iran
this is the best show i had never been, even better than lost or vampire diaries
please don't cancel it.

Hedgehog_0828 July 28, 2011 at 7:30 pm

great sitcom… actually one of the bests! hopefully the producers will obtain all the necessary permits to get to work in the second season. please get it done

Yarden1608 August 16, 2011 at 5:41 pm

This show is the BEST SHOW I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!! Why cancell it ABC?!?!!?

Mindy32566 August 29, 2011 at 12:24 am

This is the best show I have ever seen! Every show kept me hanging on waiting to see what would happen next. Really stupid to cancel ABC!!!!!! Please bring it back

Crazicat138 September 8, 2011 at 3:41 am

I just hope there is a season 2 of flash forward I mean I couldn’t wait for the next episode I mean it was like a page turner except you can’t turn the page on the tv. I’ve been waiting for them to make or decide to have it. Please pretty please do one

Ladysunflower September 10, 2011 at 1:23 pm


shanghailin September 14, 2011 at 1:16 am

here in china too, many people love it. why cancel an interesting an original show with good actors? there are so many stupid shows that made several seasons. i’m soooo disappointed. ff is the best show ever.

Mrjacktai November 24, 2011 at 7:37 pm

In Hong Kong….FF is so so so popular….you are son of bitch…i need season 2

Nanaz September 13, 2011 at 10:52 pm

it’s a shame. I am tired of seeing good series being canceled and endless, on the other hand seeing boring,childish all with same subject  going for the 4, 9 season..
Heroes, event, dark angel, flash forward and … shouldn’t being cancelled at all.

James September 17, 2011 at 8:30 pm

Ok I love this show and I wasted my whole day finishing the series on Netflix and the end it “they found him” then she wakes up the building that her daddy was in blows up. Does that mean he survived or not and why does abc have to be stupid and cancel for season 2. I loved the show lost and it was bad endings 2 but the very last one was ok but since they cancel flasforward I will have these questions of what’s going to happen the rest of my life thanks alot abc!!!!!!!

orankin91 September 27, 2011 at 1:40 pm

I’m feeling the same way right now. I just finished watching the first season on Hulu. I want to know what going to happen to the pregnant lady and what the asian dude sees in his newest flashforward. 
ABC has been canceling too many good series like journeyman, the event and  now flashforward. They should make the second season available to Netflix or some place where it would be purchasable, because I’m willing to pay!!  

Bruce Clarke October 3, 2011 at 10:27 pm

I guess at this point (18 months since cancellation) we’ll likely never see a second season or a sequel.  By now the various actors have moved on to other projects, and it would be hard to pick up where things left off.

That’s too bad – FF had its flaws but overall I found it a really interesting concept that never failed to leave you on the edge of your seat with a weekly cliffhanger.

dan p October 9, 2011 at 5:15 am

just finished watching season one on netflix. my wife and i haven’t had this much fun watching TV for years and are very anxious for a second season. I think I know why it didn’t catch on with the masses. I remember seeing previews for the first episode and thought that it was a great idea but i didn’t have a chance to watch the first few episodes. when i finally did see one (the 4th or 5th) i knew i needed to see the previous ones because i was lost. There were no reruns on when we watched tv before bed so we just let it go. I doubt we’re alone. 
I used to think that the best way to boycott a show was to just not watch it. maybe i should find out who advertises on any reality show and let them know i am boycotting their product. 

dan p October 9, 2011 at 5:29 am

here’s some advice to network execs…
TV has gotten so bad (think “reality”) that it is virtually unwatchable. Channels like TBS, USA, TNT, etc play the same rotation of movies over and over, but not before they edit the crap out them and still manage to turn a 90 min film into a 3 hour marathon with all of the commercials. This is why my wife and I just cancelled our cable and are now netflix and hulu customers. As for my advice? Give us some quality shows (like another season of Flash Forward), tell me via e-mail or some other means the businesses that sponsor that show, and I will buy their products. Network TV is going down, and all of the “reality” shows aren’t gonna save it.

Nicole October 23, 2011 at 7:00 am

Only just discovered this show on Netflix this month, ditched friends just to watch it, only to discover that it is my new favorite show and WHAT?!?!?! NOT another season. Hello ratings people! I need to know what happened to Mark!!! Where is season 2?!?!?!?!?!?

Aysha October 28, 2011 at 5:48 pm

At first, I watched like the first 10 minutes of FlashForward and I just went “What the hell??” but after like a whole summer, I download the episodes and start watching FlashForward, I was gripped! I couldn’t stop watching it. Everyday, I come home from school and I watch FlashForward in the laptop, and I don’t even bother about doing homework or anything! I was so ecstatic whenever I came up with different types of future endings for the show! The point is, this is the best Sci-Fi series I have ever lived to see. The whole involvement of the Quantum Physics and I could never have recommended a better show than FlashForward to anyone who wants to watch a Sci-Fi series! The only thing I hate about FlashForward is that they aren’t going to make a Season 2!! My world, I can’t begin to understand why they would leave us in a cliffhanger if they were going to do that?? I would love to know how the future for the series goes, only this time, I can only imagine.

Ashley November 10, 2011 at 3:19 am

I just Recently started watching Flash Forward on Netflix i LOVED it and i googled the next season to find out it had been canceled im heart broken and confused why did they cancel such a good show i love it and im begging for more. I feel like a hole is there now i will never now what happened to Mark ahhhhhh

Pricesspamela November 12, 2011 at 3:54 am

Give me back my Flash Forward! Now!!!

Linzimoss November 15, 2011 at 11:43 pm

I have just watched the whole season of flashforward and omg that was amazing it kept me at the edge of my seat the whole way through especially at the end I really hope and pray that they get to do season 2 it would be a real shame to lose out and not get to see what happens next.

Ckggillard November 29, 2011 at 4:19 am

I hope they bring back FlashForward!!!!! We love this show!!!!! Bring it back….bring it back!!

Mick Gonzalez December 2, 2011 at 4:41 am

Petition!!! 2nd season!!!

ismatrix  December 5, 2011 at 7:25 am

that is to bad to cancelled 
very sad for that
hope to the future changed to view the second season
bad bad bad ABC :-/

Iris272 December 16, 2011 at 3:38 am

where is the second seson in me flashforward i never wash any more ABC
c mon man flashforward was a good series bring the good back !!!!!

Anonymous December 18, 2011 at 12:03 am

Network executives obay and follow the money. I don’t like their decisions…especially about many of my favorite shows…such as Flashforward…one of the few series now that is (was) suspenseful and thought-provoking. I am a Sci-Fi fan from…oh, before time began. Remember, Star Trek was cancelled…DUHHH!…and that franchise has become one of the mega franchises. Executives follow the money they see NOW, not later…like any other business-minded decision-makers. Smart, non-genital-centric shows are simply not as profitable as thinly obscured T and A and cheap shows that focus exclusively on “Real” scripted human reactions…What self-respecting Sci-Fi fan would really give a c**p about the Bachelorette (you’re not gonna see anything, you know!)…unless she has interesting ears and maybe a devil’s sultry tail. (keep it clean!) We just need to enjoy the “previews” = the first season before the series is cancelled…then go read the book which spawned the series….Takes the fun out of it–doesn’t it? You know someone could make a load of cash selling a point and shoot game where you hunt network executives. “Cancel MY favorite show, WILL YOU!” Bang! Somebody get a Hefty and a mop.

Christa December 20, 2011 at 11:06 pm

Renew the contract!!! We need season 2!!

Ghost December 23, 2011 at 1:39 am

I finished the season and felt sad that it was over and now that I know the chance of another season is really unlikely.
One more thing the season#1 was made in 2009 and it’s 2012 I wish you could make season 2. good luck!

Espacio1 December 29, 2011 at 6:06 am

I have watched some great shows that have been canceled after the 1st or 2nd season.  What in the world in happening? It’s like reading a great book and having it snatched away from you.  Do the networks not care about the viewers anymore? Are they starting to create a culture of people that no longer invest their time into watching series only to know that they’ll be bent over in the end.  It’s time to for the creators of these shows to start approaching companies like Netflix, Blockbuster Online and these other sites that have the money to finance these ventures and at the same time help bring lots of subscription to their businesses.  Let’s think outside the box, ladies and gentlemen.

Craigbell105 December 29, 2011 at 4:49 pm

how would you feel if they stopped lost after one series ,im pulling my hair out , now all the characters are in place and it starts getting down to it and then bang they take it away ,please bring it back

UNA January 1, 2012 at 2:58 am

I have season one on dvd watching it now cant wait for season 2 beautiful sophisticated well acted show love it

Ephraim Lehrer January 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm

There is a problem with the basic premise of the book/show. If the whole world saw into the future at a specific time, what they would see is everyone talking about how it is now that time in the future that they had seen in their flash forward. It would be a looping kind of event. The absence of that in the flash forward only proves that the flash forward didn’t adjust for the fact that people can change what they saw in their visions. It would i essence prove that the flash forward was merely the future had the flash forward not occurred. 

Roberto d January 3, 2012 at 7:54 am

please brimg the show back!!!!!!!!!!
i went to bed really late almost everynight watching FLASHFORWARD because i coudnt stop watching jus 1 episode. please please

Anonymous January 6, 2012 at 6:25 am

Just finished watching the final episode of season one with the kids on netflix. Someone told us about the series so we checked it out and were immediately hooked! We finished the entire season in 4 days! We watched every time we had a chance. LOVED IT!!! ABC you HAVE to bring on the second season (and more!), I know we will definitely be avid and loyal viewers!;-)

Dvdfcy January 6, 2012 at 6:51 am

I would love to see ff back on the air.

Sharon Goltry January 16, 2012 at 7:15 am

Flash Forward was one of the best shows I’ve seen on TV. My husband and I just finished watching season one on Netflix. So many story lines to follow up on…..Will the show return for another season March 18, of 2012? I sincerely hope so. ABC has a real winner in Flash Forward, which they will certainly find out by bringing it back for one, or even five more seasons!

Bonfi January 20, 2012 at 7:13 am

I really enjoyed the first season.
When I look for the second one, I couldn’t believe it that is not on air yet.
Pleeeeeeease, come back!!!!

Gtvtomas January 21, 2012 at 2:18 am

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Alankrit January 22, 2012 at 11:55 am

dying for season 2

5ofus January 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

Please give us another season of Flash Forward. in our household it was as popular as Prison Break…. Flash Forward is intricate and stimulating in its story – finally something that isn’t obvious!

Azharhady January 30, 2012 at 12:40 pm

i know it is too late to say something about it, but i really cannot understand why the ABC is not thinking about the second season….i have read somewhere that the Americans don’t like such series , am not sure but to be honest with u ,we in the middle east really liked it…fantastic story, i just cannot describe it, fabulous, since years at last we have found something interesting…just tell me what to do in order to have a second season…

MIKEYJ1242 February 14, 2012 at 1:20 am

have you seen what everyone is saying?? FLASHFORWARD NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK PEOPLE LOVE IT!

Amrcnrmpr February 15, 2012 at 2:42 am

Yes, there needs to be a second season of Flashforward.  There are two reasons.  First, because the ending of the first season demands there be another….someway….somehow.  Second, Sonya Walger is sooooo HOT!!!!!  I really hope it happens soon.

Mary R C February 15, 2012 at 4:18 am

I just saw the only season of this excellent show on Netflix.  I will tell you why shows like this don’t last.  They don’t last, because most of the numbskulls who watch TV and determine ratings are in the same group who believe the official story about 9/11 and think Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy.  They don’t realize Monsanto is poisoning the earth.  They think those lines in the sky are just contrails.  They’re not smarter than a 5th grader.

Subverter February 19, 2012 at 6:03 am

Bring it back already and stop going by the ratings if you’re not going to count those who tivo and dvr it. Seriously it was a wonderful show that made you think and that is something we all need considering all the garbage out there that mindless zombies can watch. No offense to walking dead cause I love that show to. And screw all these stupid “reality” shows that are not reality at all at least for most people. Some please BRING IT BACK. It is an awesome show.

Debby C March 4, 2012 at 7:25 pm

I’ve been wondering and wondering when we’d get FlashForward here in the UK again and finally got around to doing a search only to find that it’s been cancelled.  I can’t believe it!!  It was an absolutely brilliant show and very popular here in the UK.  Everyone I know watched/recorded it and talked about it incessantly.  Please, please bring it back ABC!!!

Crl1717 March 7, 2012 at 7:19 am

 I really dont understand why this show was canceled and i dont care about raitings, seriously if thats what the network is saying there full of crap. Seriously i know its been two years, but right now on thursdays theres like 4 good shows on, Big Bang Theory, Mentalist, Person of Interest, and i like The Finder, but other then that everything on thursdays sucks, and this show was on at 8/7 centeral time lol no one in the west coast enjoys watching tv at that time. Also there are soo many streaming video websites now that people dont even watch the shows on tv which really mess with ratings, like me, because of my work and other things i do, i like to watch shows at different times, not on the nights there actually on ohh well fk the networks and raiting lol

niloO April 5, 2012 at 3:06 pm

I’m not American but i bought the first season and i’m watching it. it’s sooooOOOooOOO great,but i heard that american people liked Lost more than this, WHY?? Lost was great too,but this is something else. please do something!!!!! tell them to continue making this series,i can’t do anything from here:'( why didn’t all of you watch it??   

niloO April 5, 2012 at 3:10 pm

actually i came very late,about 2 years…i know…but…

niloO April 5, 2012 at 3:10 pm

actually i came very late,about 2 years…i know…but…

Cretsinger April 26, 2012 at 10:32 pm

All  has fallen on deaf ears and blind eyes. 

Enzo May 2, 2012 at 4:29 am

I just finished watching the one and only season of FlashForvard – and what a perfect week that was! Main idea, writing, acting, effects – all worked so well together! Hopefully there will 2nd (or 3rd, 4th season) someday, althought I have not seen it in the Blackout

TATIANA May 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm


Winfredlenx May 24, 2012 at 4:36 am

i dont like watching series, but when i started watching this one i could not just stop watching it. please bring out the season two and see the rating.

Divashandbag June 1, 2012 at 6:14 am

Please bring “flash forward” back it’s an absolutely incredible show also makes use of intelligence.. Really thou! silly shows like shit my dad says, modern family,shameless and all those other lost causes are kept but a life changing series is not?! Such a disappointment!

Chloefurgerson June 20, 2012 at 5:03 pm

i hope there is a 2nd season. I loved this show! 

Avtotar50 June 25, 2012 at 9:48 pm

Well, I look at it like this. channels like scifi and streaming like netflix are looking to run original TV shows. even with commercials, I think this would be a great show for them to pick up. come on netflix, look at your numbers and see if flash forward would make a good addition to your lineup. I have become unplugged due to cable and satellite prices. I only watch what steams on my Roku and don’t even watch television anymore. I would watch streaming netflix originals! pick up flash forward and the event.

Pizmanu July 28, 2012 at 9:04 am

I think It’s a good show. i have just seen on DVD and I loved it and Mark Benford. Is there any possibility for a second season?

Christinegleave August 1, 2012 at 7:28 am

If just finished watching the full series of flash forward about half an hour ago and got straight on the Internet to see if ther was a series 2 ! soooooo gutted now !!!!! Please bring it back !!!!!

tylermx27 August 3, 2012 at 6:45 pm


Big O August 6, 2012 at 10:01 pm

I think some channels forget how life really works. Every show doesn’t have the perfect ratings during the 1st season. It is almost impossible (with the exception of The Walking Dead). A good show is usually discovered during the “repeat” showing of that particular 1st season. This is seen in the TV show Jericho.

Another issue here is in regards to how they articulate the commercials. If you have a terrible commercial, nobody wants to see the first showing of the season, let alone the entire show itself. I didn’t know about FlashForward or Jericho (which I HIGHLY recommend), but found it on Netflix. Now… I’m hooked. 

I WANT to see Season 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Cheetahprint54 August 12, 2012 at 5:19 pm

THIS SHOW IS AWESOME!!! I just finished watching it on Netflix… and no… I do not watch ANY scheduled shows!!! This is the only season? That really stinks… because this SHOW WAS AMAZING!!! No Commercial Breaks i was surprised that it was ABC that broadcasted it cuz I Never watch any of them anymore because I hate Sitcoms and reality showshope someone brings back a 2nd season

Nintendosk8r October 8, 2012 at 12:01 am

PLEASE MAKE SEASON 2 AND MORE SEASONS UNTILL THERE IS AN ENDING WERE ITS ALL AT PEASE AND EVERYTHING IS OK. please you have to at lease 3 seasons or so. this thing is better that anything i have watched in a very long time even farther back that i can remember. ohh yeah and i had a flash foward were i was watching flashfoward but it wasnt season one so there you have it. dont fight your destinty it awaits for you!!!

Sarah_jayne October 22, 2012 at 6:33 am

get season 2 on the gop or im never watching tv again i am not getting my hopes up time and time again to be let down those actors and actresses was amazing and loads of ppl liked it rating are a load of rubbish do u realise how gutted ppl are right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get season 2 on  

Mashw November 2, 2012 at 10:49 pm

i just finished watchng it!..i already know that it wont hav s2 because i searchd it and stil watchd it! can dis realy hapen..leaving a show and viewers hangng??!! even tho the ratngs wer low it shud hav bin continued.. maybe they do not know how to contnue this up to end dat is y they hav to stop it..

Anwumario November 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm

2 years after nothing yet, so is it still coming out? Been waiting for ova 2 years

Martyvlee November 24, 2012 at 12:25 pm

Corporate never makes sense…PLEASE take away the mindless programs that engage the mindless!
Flash Forward IS quality tv.
Bring it’s back – let’s Bring Back Intelligence to North America!

Provostellen December 27, 2012 at 7:59 pm

I just watched the series of Flashfoward on Netflix and have been watching it for the past 2 weeks. I absolutely loved it! Please please bring it back! I think it would be great to see what happens in season 2 and would be better then the first season. I hope there’s a season two! I rate it 5 stars.

CIJNAL January 1, 2013 at 4:51 pm

ABC decided not to renew the show, but in our FlashForwards we saw a Season 2. The future wants to happen, so let’s get FlashForward on the right path!

kimmergy3 January 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm

would love to see this series renew. tis a great show, very innovative, loved it, the acting, storyline etc. so often worthy shows are cancelled, and ones which lack depth etc continue on.

LaMar harris April 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Come on abc how many times can u drop the ball the only good shows u currently have are 666 park avenue ,red widow flash &forward u already cancelled no ordinary family and now I’ve now I found out u cancelled it damn

hoping June 21, 2013 at 2:14 am

Just watched it on Hulu.Very good show. Maybe a cable co. will here all the chatter and pick it up. Scared of what they would change though.

kazem July 19, 2013 at 8:00 am

i just finished the first season… i am from Iran,i don’t know if there is really a second season or not.. but the only thing that i know is this that the media is a bridge for us to forget all about the politics… i hate the politics. people in all over the world and Iran as well enjoyed the first season. i beg you to make it! please let us to enjoy your art for another amazing season! just do it guys!
good luck and warm regards from Iran.

arash July 26, 2013 at 4:39 am

O MG …
we over in Iran ,loved every moment of it .. every little moment of it……
my self have seen it 5 times.. and every time it make me stunned in during and cry at end..
can’t believe how they wont make the second episode.. are you joking ????
I think they wanna make it so special or something..otherwise I will call it an insane move.

thomas harper November 2, 2013 at 4:44 pm

Flashforward series 1 was epic they have to make another, they cant leave us hangin like that c’mon abc get your act together and do the 2nd series I promise you u wont regret it

thomas harper November 2, 2013 at 4:51 pm

Flashforward series 1 was epic they have to make another, they cant leave us hangin like that c’mon abc get your act together and do the 2nd series I promise you u wont regret it please please jst do it for the millions of fans anxious to see it

ciara costello December 30, 2013 at 11:17 am

im from ireland and i first watched the full season of flashforward sback in 2009 when it aired. i have never forgotten it and this christmas i got the dvd of it. it’s the best series i’ve ever watched and its so frustrating that there is no season 2! all us fans want to know what happens because we were left on such a cliffhanger!!! we were shown more futures and i wont settle until i see if they plan out!

Gracie July 23, 2014 at 9:59 am

How can I get the attention FROM ABC to support the production of a 2 season of a great series has its FLASH FORWARD.

Dan August 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm

I know im coming in late. Just discovered the existents of the show 3 days ago. Loved it, watched the whole season in 3 day. I would love for there to be a Season 2. Please make it happen if possible!

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